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Engine M/T Celica ECU Swap into M/T 8th Corolla

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    Nope. I believe it's still 6500 redline. You couldn't get it to work or what?
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    Greddy emanage ultimate FTW
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    i see your emanage and raise you a apexi power fc... now if i can just get time (and my car running) to get it installed
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    Umm no... PFC! lol
    Added: Apr 15, 2013 6:20 AM
    haha Jynx!
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    All that matters is NPF
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    Well played
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    Im gonna run a emanage or smog reasons, i know you can wire the PFC to work when you take it to the smog station.
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    yeah i figured that.
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    Gotta love emissions right
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    ? The PFC can be unplugged and the stock ecu can be plugged back in. It would take you less than a minute depending on where you locate the ecu.

    The Emanage piggybacks into the wiring harness and intercepts certain signals. That would also cause issues for emission readings and possibly DTC's.

    Either way. Both are not smog legal and both require to be removed prior to smog
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    Fail Visual immediately.

    On my Supra I was running my wideband, boost controller, and emanage off a custom jumper harness. When it came time to smog, I just unplugged the jumper and left it on the floor. Smog guy looked at it real quick saw that it was unplugged, and no problems.
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    When i had it in before i had a 7k redline, and i didnt lean out with my CAI. I don't care if my self tests don't set, i just don't want my fuel trim resetting every time shut it off.
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    What do you mean? You talking about your LTFT's?
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    You know i have no idea what im talking about :laugh:
    Added: Apr 17, 2013 at 1:18 AM
    I mean i dont care if my self tests, (whatever was making my CEL turn on before) don't complete like they were when i had the ECU in before, i just don't want it adjusting my fuel trim everytime i shut my car off. Im pretty sure thats what was happening before.
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    Fuel Trim = LTFT (Long term fuel trim)
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    Or is that stored and only resets when the battery is unplugged? (Total fucking ECU nooblet :poop::weep:)
    Added: Apr 17, 2013 at 1:21 AM
    Ok cool, so does this only reset when the ECU is disconnected?
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    The Ecu ALWAYS adjust for fuel trim in closed loop.

    As far as open loop or WOT fuel trims. Those don't really change. They are predetermined by base maps. That's why you usually have to tune your basemap when modding to get optimum power.
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    Ok cool so im good to go. Ill just get a CEL, but now that i have a harness to wire into i can just plug my OEM ECU in when smogging and easily go back the Celica afterwords.
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    Yup. As long as it's running good. You're good to go. Like I said. The only fuel trims that change. Are the ones in closed loop (driving normally for good mpg's). Open loop (WOT Performance) never really changes except by inputs like Knock sensor.
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    Ran into my first snag, can find NSW on the celica diagram, do i leave it open?
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    Heres my pinouts so far using the corolla EWD with connectors 4,5, & 6, and the celica connectors 2,3,4, & 5. I have a bunch of pins connections that are on the corolla EWD that aren't on the Celica EWD and visa versa. Im going to solder it all up and see what works.

    ID Corolla Celica

    RSO E4/15 E5/18
    B+ E6/12 E2/16
    EVP1 E4/7 E4/4
    W E6/5 E2/15
    TBP E4/4 E3/23
    FC E6/14 E2/3
    CCV E4/5 E5/17
    SPD E6/9 E3/22
    BATT E6/1 E2/1
    EVG E5/10 E4/1
    THA E5/3 E4/22
    VG E5/2 E4/11
    VC E5/1 E4/2
    VTA E5/11 E4/23
    PTNK E4/17 E2/4
    THW E5/4 E4/14
    CF E6/22 E3/3
    NSW E4/19 N/A
    STA E6/11 E3/11
    TE1 E6/6 N/A
    SIL E6/17 E2/11
    OCV+ E4/2 E5/24
    OCV- E4/1 E5/23
    IDLO E6/7 E2/10
    E2 E5/9 E4/18
    R E4/10 E3/2
    ELS E6/2 N/A
    ELS2 E6/3 N/A
    FAN E4/9 E3/4
    #10 E4/12 E5/1
    #30 E4/25 E5/3
    #20 E4/11 E5/2
    #40 E4/24 E5/4
    HT1A E5/7 E4/3
    OX1A E5/6 E4/12
    HT1B E5/15 E3/16
    OX1B E5/14 E3/25
    KNK1 E4/18 E5/27
    E1 E4/14 E4/17
    E03 E4/14 E2/7
    E02 E5/8 E5/31
    E01 E4/13 E5/21
    IGT1 E4/20 E5/10
    IGT2 E4/21 E5/11
    IGF E4/3 E5/25
    IGT3 E4/22 E5/12
    IGT4 E4/23 E5/13
    TACH E6/13 E3/27
    NE+ E5/5 E4/16
    NE- E5/13 E4/24
    G2 E5/12 E4/15
    F/PS E4/16 E3/8
    PS E4/8 E5/28
    AC E6/10 N/A
    ACT E6/21 N/A

    Thing is, if you look at the corolla EWD it has 2 sets of connector ID's, one for the E4-E6 connectors(what i used this time), and one for the E7-E10 connectors (which I used last time and are identical to the E2-E5 connectors).

    So should I just use the pinouts i have so far and then for the rest of the open connections use the E7-E10(A/T Corolla / M/T Celica) pinouts?
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    Second snag, started soldering things together, got to TBP wich calls for Celica E3/23 to be connected to Corolla E4/4 yet in the harness/connector there is no wire coming from Celica E3/23. Do i need to make a custom jumper? Also, if you look at The A/T Corolla Connectors (E7-E10 on the first diagram) TBP is actually on Connector E7/22 and is a red wire, and if I look at my harness i have a matching red wire at E7/22.

    Wondering if i have the wrong harness?
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    I'll look into this tonight when I get home bro. :)
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