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Majority of people that Ive talked to that didnt want it had no fucking clue why they didnt want it. Probably cuz Glenn Beck said so.

can't fine me when I'm already broke! thx corrupt legislators!

You all have to realize that there are 320ish million people in the United States- this healthcare reform will provide insurance to about 35 million people that are not currently covered. Thats an increase of only 10%.

For the other 90% (well, more specifically, for the other percentage that currently have insurance)...nothing is really changing unless you are the wealthy. You can keep your current plan.

And the cost of the bill, spread out over the next 10 years, will be covered by charging more for Medicaid to the rich (those who make 250k or more a year), new taxes on expensive health care providers (doesnt start until 2018 and is called the "Cadillac" tax), and increased/extra fees on the insurers themselves. (its about time!), and Medicare Cuts. (and no use in blaming Obama for this one- McCain and Clinton were planning on cutting MORE in Medicare over the 10 years if they had gotten into office)

Under the reform youll stay on your parents insurance until age 26 unless you get on your own insurance.

You already ARE paying illegals- who do you think pays for the illegals healthcare when they go to the hospital for help? They arent turned away.....that burden already falls on the taxpayers.
And even under the plan, illegals will NOT be allowed to buy insurance from the exchange. PERIOD.

Its all been released. And youll have 4 years to research it cuz thats when it goes into effect. 2014! And the FULL penalties dont kick in until 2016, which will be a TAX fine of 695 bucks. They wont send you a bill for 695- it will be deducted at tax time. And low income will be exempt.

Federal subsidies will help those pay that cant pay it. (estimated at 20 million people total). The amount you end up paying will be determined by a sliding scale- and youll be able to shop around (aka- "exchanges") for a plan that fits you and your situation. And for the really poor people, the Medicaid system is going to be expanded so you can apply for Medicaid.

True.

Its going to be set up just like majority of insurance companies are now- you will be able to shop around and have a choice- (NOTE: this is if you are unhappy with your current insurance or dont have insurance currently- otherwise you can stay with your current insurance company and nothing will change)

Youll be able to shop around for alternate insurance- but your employer will have to match the prices from outside of the exchanges.

From what I understand,this was the Bacus Proposal, and Im not sure if it was put into the reform that was passed. Either way, the proposal was basically 4 levels that could be comparable to car insurance policies- the bottom level covers the bare minimums, and the top level covers everything. (With all levels required to cover a certain list of services- the following:
· preventive and primary care services,
· emergency services,
· medical and surgical care,
· physician services,
· hospitalization,
· outpatient services,
· day surgery and related anesthesia,
· diagnostic imaging and screenings (including x-rays),
· maternity and newborn care,
· pediatric services (including dental and vision care),
· prescription drugs,
· radiation and chemotherapy, and
· mental health and substance abuse services.

It doesnt matter- across the board. For children it goes into effect immediately. For adults with pre-existing conditions, it goes into effect in 2014.



There is a college aid aspect that was passed with the bill as well. Pretty beneficial for those entering college or planning to in the future sometime.

Theres still a shit load to it, but those are the basics...the conspiracy theorists still claim this is a backdoor bailout, and that the middle class will be paying out the ass for this in increased taxes, higher premiums because the insurance companies are taking a hit, etc etc etc.

The pessimist comes out in too many people when it comes to politics. They grab on to the unknown factors and stretched assumptions and wont let go no matter what.

Time will tell. In about 6-9 years on whether or not this will work.

Riiiiiight. You dont need insurance until you NEED it. I see comments like that as an easy out for someone to disagree with all of this.
People that have money and can live live comfortably complain about having to pay for those that are taking advantage and riding the system.

You already have insurance so why are you upset that they are forcing OTHERS to have insurance. And what does it matter what kinds of insurance it is....your insurance will remain the same.

And if you want details, go read the bill itself. Put some time aside since it very long, but its all right there in black and white, and has been for MONTHS. How do you think all of the opposition is able to oppose it the last few months....by guessing?

Obama is ruining the country

I wish I wasn't so out of tune with what's going on in this country.

country is getting ruined, doesn't matter

So nothing has changed.

Yep, the country is screwed.

Must be. That's golds equivalent of swearing.