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Discussion in 'Off Topic' started by corollarider19, May 17, 2008.

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    94corolla-chafita uhh im a dude..

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    one of my ex's was bi. and at a bar she would point out as described above! and its nice when they have friends that are bi and get drunk with you.. but i think this should be discussed in the mature thread... lol
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    GSE21tuner Formerly rollatuner110. Representing AZLexus.club

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    Many out there are hypocritical indeed. They criticize one group for some wrongdoing, do something just as bad, and then hide and point fingers.
    GSE21tuner, May 19, 2008
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    Im referring to the manner in which this was reversed.....the reversal of the ban is technically illegal.
    e_andree, May 19, 2008
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    Ares Active Member

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    Explain please. I am into government and all that goodies :D
    Ares, May 19, 2008
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    GSE21tuner Formerly rollatuner110. Representing AZLexus.club

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    Oh ok. Thanks for clearing that up. :)
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    its_ikon FIRST widebody

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    that would be left for the mature section, but i was just trying to get the point across that rollatuner110 brought up.
    its_ikon, May 19, 2008
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    New thread in the mature section with pics or BAN!!! LoL jk...
    Ares, May 19, 2008
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    Ill have to find the article about it...I didnt fully understand it.
    e_andree, May 19, 2008
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    My stance on gay marriage is this. I could care less who you are who you like what you like. I think if you are in love and want to get married go for it. I know the bible says its between and man and woman but is the bible an accurate account of what went on?
    corollarider19, May 19, 2008
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    GSE21tuner Formerly rollatuner110. Representing AZLexus.club

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    Homosexual relationships aren't a recent occurrence. It's been documented in ancient Greece and Rome from off the top of my head. There were quite a few more. It wasn't an issue back then, why should it be an issue now? It's just the conservative mentality of today's society. It's the majority imposing rules that seem right to them on the rest of us.
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    Alright...from what I understand:

    The ban was the result of a civil initiative, which passed with a 61% majority. This was entirely in line with the Constitution.

    However, since it was a civil initiative, no one branch of government can overturn the law per the California constitution. Which is exactly what the court did in this case.

    In my opinion, sexual discrimination cannot, in principle, be legalized. So the ban, in and of itself, is illegal. The court is just striking down what is in essence and illegal law. Because illegal laws are illegal and therefore are not subject to the constitutional process.

    Or, lets go the other way....

    To put forward an irritatingly convoluted argument just for the shit of it, let's point out that discrimination requires Person A to not be allowed to do something Person B is allowed to do. Then let's observe that the law doesn't say that gays can't marry, only that the concept of marriage is a connect of two people of opposite genders. Gay people have the exact same rights that straight people do (i.e. they can marry a person of the opposite gender if they so choose.) Now, I'm not saying that this is right, and I do realize that this argument skirts around morality altogether, but because of this I would submit that in a purely and narrowly and slavishly LEGAL sense the Court could not allow gay marriage on Constitutional grounds (rights are guaranteed to individuals, not couples, under any ethical code I'm aware of.)
    e_andree, May 20, 2008
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    agreed. i believe they found it to be unconstitutional, correct?
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    No, they simply redefined "marriage"....thus stepping all over the public, who voted for Proposition 22 in 2000, thus violating the seperation of powers.

    Its going to be turned over
    e_andree, May 20, 2008
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