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Discussion in 'Off Topic' started by Cuztomrollaz98, May 9, 2008.

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    Cuztomrollaz98 MAD VLAD!

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    Question for motorcycle riders out there...

    I'm looking into buying a new set of tires and I'm looking for suggestions on a set of tires that are good for commuting as well as canyon carving since the Dunlop Qualifiers I have on right now are about done with just 4 months of use (yes that is weak as hell lol).... so yea just looking to see which tires you guys like best. Thanks in advance guys!
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    DeebsTundra Big Tires :)

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    Can't go wrong with a Dunlop D-series.

    Avon is a great commuter tire, not sure about how grippy it's going to be in the corners.

    Pirelli Diablo for a high-end performance but less commuting.

    Bridgestone ain't too bad a tire either.

    I had Dunlop's on mine and loved them.
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    Don't go with another set of Dunflops, get some Metzeler M3's.
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    Cuztomrollaz98 MAD VLAD!

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    Yea I had a set of Bridgestone Batlax when I bought the bike and those lasted like 9k miles, but these Dunlop qualifiers I bought not even 6 months ago and they're done lol

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    Tonyota VVTI BLOWN..??

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    Just maybe your more aggresive now.....Personaly I have Metz and great for carving.
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    Cuztomrollaz98 MAD VLAD!

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    yea perhaps that's what the issue might be... that and I ride the bike even during cold 20-30 degree days too so that might have helped towards the crazy fast wear lol
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    DeebsTundra Big Tires :)

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    The Qualifier is a really soft tire.

    Mine came stock with the Battlax too. It wasn't a horrid tire, but definately not the greatest. I've never had any experience with the Metzler so I can't account for those. But Dunlop's D-series is what I put in there at 8k and those things were awesome. I forget what it was, I wanna say a D-220.
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    Yea everyone has been telling me that the Qualifier is not a very good tire for commuting cause of the compound. They do grab like a champ on canyon runs though, wish I had leathers to start knee dragging lol, I'm really damn close lol
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    Personaly if your going to ride like that you want good grippy tires. Trust me.. I just plan on 250.00 every year and a half. Its part of maintanance.

    Dam wish you were closer. I have 3/4 to new tires sitting here, that others have tried and not liked. We swap them out and try different things or guys use them for track days.
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    DeebsTundra Big Tires :)

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    You don't need leathers to drag a knee.
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    Tonyota VVTI BLOWN..??

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    NO he dont. However I would not suggest going straight out and leaning as far as usaul on new tires. Be safe out there, we have enough s#$% to deal with.
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    DeebsTundra Big Tires :)

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    Well no. You have to slowly wear the coating off of new tires. But with a worn in tire, you don't need leathers to knee drag, or scrape pegs. (Not that I used to do such a thing. :rolleyes: )
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    Cuztomrollaz98 MAD VLAD!

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    well if I'd want road rash all over my knee caps then I'd certainly do it but after wrecking 2 weeks ago I don't think I want that at all lol... haha I remember those good old days when you used to leave me and Ryan in the dust going up Morrison Canyon lol.... I think I'd give you a good run now
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    DeebsTundra Big Tires :)

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    You don't actually drag your knee on the ground unless you have pucks. Puck keeps the asphalt from digging into your knee and ripping you off the bike.

    Coming from the guy who said, "Oh yeah I've run canyons a couple times, I won't be the fastest, but I can do ok."
    Me: "There isn't a corner on this road you can't take safely at 5-10 above the limit."
    You: (Proceeded to ride up at 10 BELOW the limit.)
    :p
    I haven't been on a bike in 2 years and you might give me a run. Maybe. ;)
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    Yep exactly why I don't drag it lol...... plus hey I was pretty new back then so better be safe than sorry you know? wouldn't have liked to eat crap on my newb carving phase lol...... I learned quite a bit from you either way, those riding days were fun. Some of the people I ride with now are wreckless and get on my nerves quite a bit since they don't show much concern for the other riders and their safety. On group rides I always sweep since I'm not a crazy ass speed racer plus I like to lookout after people..... however I will ask you something...... Would you ever care to show me how to properly do a wheelie? I know you had them down hardcore!
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    ***EASY ON THROTTLE WHILE IN WHEELIE POSITION***
    1. Find yourself a wide, empty street.
    2. While sitting down, just bring the clutch in, let off the gas and then drop the clutch. Front end won't come off the ground. But you will feel the forks expand.
    3. Practice that, very slowly gassing before you drop the clutch. Start with pulling in the clutch, gassing up 100 rpm faster than you are going and dropping it. Then 200, 300, 400 etc until you find a comfortable place that the bike comes up about 12-24 inches.
    4. Try to find the right amount of acceleration where the front tire will stay up off the ground. You are a long way from the balance point so you will only accelerate and eventually you'll have to roll off the throttle or you'll be bouncing the rev limiter. ***ROLL OFF THE THROTTLE TO BRING IT DOWN SOFTLY. Bring it down too hard you'll blow fork seals, and probably go over.)
    (I do not like Sit-down wheelies for anything more than practicing how to get the front end up. I can't see shit.)
    5. Eventually you have to just take the plunge. Stand up on the pegs, do just like you did while sitting down, bring the bike up, roll the throttle in and you'll feel the front end rise.
    6. As the front end rises, eventually you'll find the balance point, where a certain amount of throttle will keep you going the same speed, and you won't continue to rise or fall. You cannot find the balance point on the bike until you find the balance point of you leaning back as well. That's hard to find because for the longest time it felt like I was going to fall backwards off the back.

    Notes: If you try to hurry up and find the balance point, you'll loop. Learning how to wheelie is a process that should be taken very slow. Don't over-do it, or go beyond your means. You will also find the sweet spot where your bike really enjoys coming up. For me it was 2nd gear, about 5-6k rpm. Which was around 35-40 mph. Also when you do get the bike up, be very careful to just rotate your wrist on the throttle, and not yank down with your whole arm. If you come down out of a wheelie with the wheel turned, it's over.

    I can't show you how it works, A) I haven't been on a bike in two years. B) I am unfamiliar with your bike. And I'm not going to loop your bike for you. :)
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    lol, I've attempted wheelies before and the bike comes up, however I have to rev her really high to be able to do this and people say it's bad for the bike so I dk. I'm just trying to figure out what I'm doing wrong.
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    On a GSXR? Shouldn't have to rev it that high. Are you dumping the clutch or barely slipping it?
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    Trying both but it seems to jump better when just dumping it. When I slip it it doesn't do anything lol..... I'm definitely doing something wrong, I just have to figure out what lol.
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    You should never have to rev it super high to get the front end up. 8k was usually enough to give me 24 inches of lift, and I could draw it up from there. When you rev it super high is when you run the risk of slipping the clutch and half-mooning the thing.
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    I'll try the whole midrange in 2nd gear and see if that helps. Gotta work on slipping the clutch too
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    Don't slip. Dump. Sorry, typo in my last post. If you try to slowly slip the clutch out, it won't grab hard enough to cause a wheelie. Wheelie happens when the back end is accelerating faster than the front. If you slip the clutch it will just accelerate, and burn on the clutch. Revving a bit and dropping it causes the grip and the lift.
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    okay so I've been doing it right then lol, just gotta find in what part of the power band the bike is going to come up easier.

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