VA Tech Shooting..

Do you have any exclusive news and details that the public hasn't been told about yet? All i've gotten is what I posted on Post 22....

This is what I think...

He had the intention of shooting his girlfriend. After he shot her, he shot the DA who was coming to check on the commotion. After he shot the two, he came back to his dorm room. This is where I think he realized that since he shot two people, he was going down no matter what. So he decided to shoot as many people as he could. This is where I think he wrote the letter and why there was a two hour downtime. He used chains which are commonly found in the dorm building where he was staying, which means that I think he didn't think about shooting more than one person (or two) from the beginning but made last minute plans and grabbed the chains. I don't think it's because he had a school related hatred as one person on here came to believe.

This is what I am led to believe...

hey turismo, you do realize Eric works for a news station, right? he has access to a LOT more than what the public knows.

yup, thats why i asked him if he knew something we dont

What does "Ismail Ax" mean??

fuck that with firing the president. how can they blame him /her for something like that?

parents and students felt he could have done a better job with the situation. For instance, not shutting down the school after the first incident and not notifying the students of what was going on until 2 hours later. Thats why people want him and the chief of police of the campus, fired.

Well maybe with the chief of police...

I don't see why though. Even if they locked down the campus, it would be nearly impossible for them to find the kid. He would of just shot up anyone in his path. so regardless of the situation locking down the campus wouldn't have done any good.

Now, as far as notification, That should of been sent out within that hour. That way people would have been on the look out for something suspicious, IMO.

oh and if anyone does a search for the kids name on facebook, there's like 6 pages of groups that are either showing hate for the kid or asking for forgiveness or trying to tell people not to look at koreans in a bad way.

From what I hear, she wasn't dating him, they where freinds.

Well purpose wise, if they locked down the school, everyone would've had to stay where they were in secured buildings where no one could get in or out. So if the shooter was somewhere within the campus, he would've been confined to a certain area, most likely his dorm building since thats where the shooter returned to after the first shooting. That would've prevented him from gaining access to the classrooms of the engineering building, therefore preventing the deaths of those people in the engineering building. That in turn would've given police and law enforcement more control of the situation and more time to gather more police to the scene to find him....

They had a bomb threat at our school last month. Someone called it in and when they decided to check out the bathroom, which is where the call led them to, they found a backpack there so they shut down the college for a whole day. Whether or not it did any good, it's better to be safe than sorry.

Also, a few months ago, there was a shooting that occured in a neighborhood in Tulsa and since it was close to a police station, response was immediate. When they arrived, they blocked all paths in and out of the neighborhood and told everyone to lock their doors like driving up and down the streets with loud speakers.

yes he could of been confined to his dorm but what would stop him from killing anyone and everyone in the building he was confined in? It would of still happened regardless where he was. And if he was outside, he may have gone after people outside. may have not gotten as many kids but still.

Being familiar with how a lockdown works, i'm pretty sure that each building would've been assigned a police officer at the least so if he would've gone off on the students in that building he was confined in, police would've been within reach to intervene...

That still gives him enough time to rome around. one officer for one huge building isn't enough. by the time they've cleared teh building, the damange would have been done. we're not talking about a knife or pipe, we're talking about guns. he could of popped off at any given time, regardless if cops where there or not.

Think about it, if they got the 911 call at 7:15am, you gotta give the cops time to show up. say 2-3 minutes depending on where they are. They get there and survey the crime scene and look for a suspect. by the time they order the lock down, it would be a good 5-10 minutes later. well enough time for more people to be killed. and by looking at that map, that kid could of walked into any building near by.

The scenario we are talking about is if at the very least, one cop was at the dormitory to make sure it was secure. We are talking about one shooter and one cop is all it would've taken. There would not need to be a 911 call. Students aware of the lockdown would more than likely lock their own doors to their own rooms and at the same time confining the shooter in his own dorm room. Therefore, the shooter would've had to force his way into each room one after one and as we are all aware, the shooter did attempt to enter a barricaded classroom that he had already entered once before during his rampage and gave up because he could not gain access to the room again and moved on to a different classroom. In a lockdown, you wouldn't be allowed to walk around anyways until the situation was under complete control. In that time, they could've built up a case and figured out who the shooter was and where he was staying. At this point, they could've entered his room and taken him into custody without any casualties...

http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/VTfunerals/index.html

They must be absolutely insane...

yes...that's part of the problem with that family...

i dont get it...

that's the same family that has protested at every military funeral, saying it's god's will they died because god hates gay people, etc etc and so on.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westboro_Baptist_Church
http://www.godhatesfags.com/

The killer sent pics and a video to NBC. go to www.msnbc.com to see the videos and pics. in the pics he's holding both guns. this kid seriously looks crazy.

oh those guys

EDIT: when did he send videos?

between the first shooting and the second.

yeah i didnt watch the videos when i posted that.. sry