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    IMUS a racist??

    I think not......

    D-list celebrity and radio personality Don Imus used the words "nappy-headed hos" when describing a female basketball team. Al Sharpton was quick to comment. You can find this story here:

    http://www.cnn.com/2007/SHOWBIZ/TV/04/08/imus.ap/index.html
    and here: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17999196/
    and here: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,264859,00.html
    and here: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17985869/
    and here: http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/09/business/media/09carr.html?ref=business
    and here: http://www.foxnews.com/wires/2007Apr06/0,4670,ImusApology,00.html
    and here: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17997908/site/newsweek/


    IN OTHER NEWS.....AND ON THE OTHER HAND......a young couple in Knoxville was the victim of a brutal hate crime. Christopher Newsom was castrated, brutally beaten, shot, and burned while his girlfriend, Channon Christian, was watching. Channon was then raped repeatedly by four assailants over a two day period. After forcing her to perform oral sex, the men poured household cleaners down her throat in an attempt to destroy DNA evidence. They then cut off one of her breasts and strangled her to death. Her body was recovered in five separate garbage bags.

    Since the incident in mid-January, there have been many recent developments in this case. All four suspects have been apprehended. A witness surfaced who viewed the heinous acts, and then she too was charged with crimes. More recently, three of the suspects entered not guilty pleas.

    You might have trouble finding info on this story. It hasn't been picked up by any major media outlet.
    http://www.knoxnews.com/kns/local_ne...277265,00.html


    Just goes to show what kind of society that we live in.......I hope Im not the only one that gets the point of this post.....
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    DaCubanSkillz Active Member

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    The last link doesn't work. I tried looking for it on the website but it didn't show up.

    EDIT: Imus said something that alot of entertainment people have said..if not worse..so why call HIM out on it?!
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    cgreen38 Common sense, p

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    Anyone want to help me kill Sharpton? :ninjastea
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    MovieSTAR i hurd u liek?

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    lets go ninja him
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    "Nappy headed hoes"
    If its the truth, is it still racist?
    I didnt realize "nappy headed" is used solely to describe blacks
    And I dont see any feminists groups speaking out about this......I find it amusing that no one is saying ANYTHING about the "HOES" reference.

    Leaders of the black community have been asked if it were a black radio host saying that, would it hit the news, and they skirted the issue.
    Roland Martin claims that Imus is held to a higher standard, since hes on a cable network (MSNBC). Thats utterly ridiculous.
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    MovieSTAR i hurd u liek?

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    just for fun im gonna call someone a nappy headed hoe and see what they say...bet you 10 bucks i wont be called on national news about it
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    Sigh, Sharpton is just an attention whore. I wouldn't be suprised if he has a paid staff that does nothing but watch and listen to white(or any other race but black) tv/radio personalities in anticipation of a comment like what was made. Should he have said it, probably not. Should a huge friggin deal be made about it? F no.

    Funny thing is, Don Imus was a very close friend to the late Rev. G.E. Patterson, presiding bishop of the Church of God in Christ(google COGIC for those of you outside of the south and Chicago/Detroit area) and even had Patterson's wife on his show. If he was truly a racist, do you think he would've done that?
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    Imus got suspended for 2 weeks. I was just watching The View and those ladies thought the same as I did. WHy doesn't Sharpen go after rappers as well or others. And like E said, they also said, why aren't any feminist groups coming forth about the Hos comment.
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    Now the asshat Rev Jesse Jackson is saying that MSNBC as a whole is racist/discriminatory, because they dont have any on air talent that is black. Sheesh.
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    lmao....sigh. anyone hear about people complaining that UCLA does not allow enough black/hispanic people into their school? i thought application reviewers were not able to see their names or the applicants' ethnicity.... so how would that be a valid argument? as a result, UCLA has changed their application reviewing policy and are now able to see applicant's ethnicity (not sure about name)..which I dont agree with. i think they had to decrease asian applicants from being accepted and kept the whites the same.
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    The actual point here was lost though....the fact that this has made the news over the black on white crime is terrible. Its fucked up
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    i am surprised anyone was able to understand what he was saying.
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    TurismoDreamin ΓΡΗΓΟΡΟΣ ΟΔΗΓΟΣ

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    Here ya go E...

    You can get as black as you want...I dunno if you can get that black, haha...

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    There is a huge double standard.

    Whoopi Goldberg has been going around the radio and television circuit, calling for Imus firing or resignation. Someone asked her"if you feel that way, why were you defending Ted Danson when he dressed up in black face at a party and pretended to be black all night long?"

    She replied" Oh, thats different, he was joking around. He always jokes around"

    Thats different huh? I rest my case.

    This all is a disgrace to the human race as a whole, and is only setting BACK equality and discriminatory issues.

    In regards to the video above, Sharpton has those same views......

    Good article...via CNN

    (CNN) -- Does the Don Imus controversy have an echo quality to it?

    Michael Harrison of Talkers magazine, a publication devoted to radio, thinks so.

    "I think that there's a lot of hypocrisy going on here," Harrison said Monday on CNN's "Paula Zahn Now" about the backlash against Imus over remarks about the Rutgers women's basketball team. (Giuliani: I'd go on Imus' show )

    "The fact is our entire culture is awash in this kind of thing. And, every six months to eight months, for some unusual reason, somebody says something ... that's commonly being said by so many people in the media, in comedy, in movies, on television, on radio, and they're picked out. They're held up. They're burned at the cross," he said. "We blame them. We don't blame corporate America. We don't blame our tastes. And the cycle begins again."

    Certainly, we've seen this show before. Last year it was Mel Gibson (anti-Semitic comments) followed by Michael Richards (racist rant) and Isaiah Washington (homophobic insult).

    Moreover, radio hosts, whether on the left, right or shock-jock fringe, are known for their inflammatory rhetoric. Rush Limbaugh has his "feminazis"; liberals strike back with "Rethuglicans." And shock jocks insult guests, callers and staff members with equal impunity. (Clinton: Way over the line )

    Robert Thompson, pop culture professor at Syracuse University, wonders if the cycle of slur/apology/victim's-group demand/greater apology/contrition-rehab has run its course.

    "There's an open cynicism about this now," Thompson said. "In its predictability, the whole equation is falling apart entirely."

    But Char Miller, director of urban studies at Trinity University in San Antonio, Texas, thinks that l'affaire Imus may be different. Miller said he believes that society has become less willing to accept the kind of characterizations Imus let loose.

    "By combining racism and sexism, he increased the animosity," Miller said. The controversy "has struck a nerve in a lot of places. That's a sign that our willingness to accept such language is diminishing."

    The use of such language is not that unusual, said Tobe Berkovitz, interim dean of Boston University's College of Communication.

    "The difference is that now it's not behind closed doors -- or the doors have been thrown open," Berkovitz said. "But people have always said vile things. It was just in the country club, or the classroom, or on the factory floor. Now, in the cell phone-Internet age, these things go blasting out to the world, not just between folks."

    Moving the marketplace
    Of course, the media business plays all sides of the controversy. Media corporations create and distribute the music, movies and television shows that radio hosts complain about. They also pay the radio hosts to push the envelope.

    And the public keeps the merry-go-round moving.

    "There has to be a bit of the marketplace in this," Berkovitz said. "[Radio hosts] fill a lot of air. The public has lots of options, so the hosts give red meat or gray tofu and give the people what they want, or [the public] will go somewhere else."

    Niger Innis, spokesman for the Congress of Racial Equality, said that jumping on Imus -- and not taking on the rest of the system -- is foolish.

    "The hypocrisy of these media empires that are full partners in the grossest industry, the hip-hop industry, that pumps out the most vicious stereotypes of African-Americans, the hypocrisy is just gross," Innis told CNN's Zahn. "And they're going to -- they're going to slap Don Imus on the hand because they're so offended?"

    But Michael Eric Dyson, a radio host and author of "Debating Race," told CNN's Lou Dobbs that the talk has to start somewhere.

    "To say I'm sorry without facing the fire ... of what he has instigated would be to essentially rap him on the back of the knuckles without saying, 'Look, Mr. Imus, what you did is indicative of a deep and virulent pathology that needs to be removed.' And the reality is, these kinds of thoughts and behaviors have to be at least isolated, talked about and dealt with."

    Perhaps Essence Carson, captain of the Rutgers women's basketball team, said it best.

    Just because inflammatory talk is widespread in popular culture -- rap and hip-hop music have been widely criticized for misogyny and vulgarity -- it's not acceptable, whether on music radio or talk radio, she said at the team's Tuesday press conference.

    "All that matters is it's wrong," Carson said.
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    Did anyone listen to Sean Hannity's show yesterday on the radio?
    He had two guys on there (dont' remember their names) and Patrice O'Neal (funny guy).
    Patrice said over and over, "Why does it insult you when he wasn't talking about YOU??" He also said that black people should stop letting Sharpton and Jackson be the unofficial spokesman for all black people. He also said that everyone should stop being so sensitive and stop letting every comment be a national headline. I agree. We, as a nation need to mature and learn that not everyone is going to be nice. JMO.
    BTW, Mark Levinn (however you spell his name) said basically the same things on his radio show.
    Yes, I listen to a lot of conservative talk radio. :D
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    Patrice is hilarious. Ive seen his standup a few times.

    Hes on the O+A show pretty often. Hilarious.

    Some Jess Jackon remarks:

    Jackson has been criticized for some of the remarks he has made about Jews and Jewish issues: that Nixon was less attentive to poverty in the U.S. because "four out of five [of Nixon's top advisors] are German Jews and their priorities are on Europe and Asia"; that he was "sick and tired of hearing about the Holocaust"; that there are "very few Jewish reporters that have the capacity to be objective about Arab affairs"; [7] In addition Rev. Jackson had referred to Jews as "Hymies" and to New York City as "Hymietown" in January 1984 during a conversation with Washington Post reporter, Milton Colemanes it by his love towards jews
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    http://www.nbc4.com/entertainment/11814452/detail.html

    According to Snoop Dogg, its okay for rappers to call women ho's because they're referencing girls in the hood who take advantage of guys. yet Imus calling the basketball team ho's, is a no-no cause those girls are doing something with themselves.

    Tell me where that makes any sense. So I guess i can call any woman a ho based on her education? :rolleyes:
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    If I hear any black person tell any dumb blonde jokes, Im calling the media
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    The couple who were beaten, raped and whatnot, were they white?
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    See that's what I do not understand...we're a race just like blacks, asians, moroccans...why aren't there laws against hate crimes against us? I mean I understand that the laws were put in place because of white people being stupid but does that give blacks and what not the right to do the same things to us? Not in my book ... if you're an adult and you do terrible things to someone, you should get the full punishment. Whether you're black, purple, orange...I don't care. Everything is about fucking race. It's stupid.
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    I haven't heard anything this ignorant in a while.



    yes, yes, i agree.



    Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, and their money-making business furthering agenda do not represent me. :mad:
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    so when white people bought slaves from black people we became racist... what does that make the black people who supplied all the black people as slaves? white people bought slaves that BLACK PEOPLE SOLD TO THEM!!!

    how in the world did slavery become the white mans idea when its been going on in every other part of the world since the beginning of recorded history?

    i just have no idea how the majority of an entire country became so ignorant to how things really happened.
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    Sharpton and Jesse Jackson are constitutional terrorists.
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    Yeah, that guy is a toolshed. It's funny that he can even get media attention anymore.
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    Imus picked the wrong week to say what he did.....

    Where are Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson now? Definately not trying to help out down in Virginia. Fuckers.

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